Dalo Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Phi for All said: ! Moderator Note By now it should be obvious that your style of narrowing responses to your claims to only those you understand doesn't make for a productive discussion. Pages and pages of members trying to help you understand explanations you've dismissed because you don't understand them. You stand on your soapbox and declare against the patient help others are trying to give. This is a science discussion forum. The discussions are for the purpose of learning. I don't see that happening, and I'll close this down if it doesn't start soon. And stop using the excuse that you're not a physicist to reject answers from people who are. That's just trolling. I never used not being a physicist as an excuse. There is a difference between a technical discussion of Physics issues that only physicists can have and follow, and issues that concern physics to which non-physicists as myself can contribute. As I said, I am a philosopher. I cannot change that and pretend I am learning to be a physicist. That is just not the case. I approach issues in Physics from a philosophical state of mind. For that, I need a minimum of knowledge to know, at in least in broad strokes, what I am talking about. If you think that philosophers, people in general, need to be experts in Physics before they can participate in this forum, then just say so and I will cease all my contributions. Edited December 14, 2017 by Dalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dalo said: ...If you think that philosophers, people in general, need to be experts in Physics before they can participate in this forum, then just say so and I will cease all my contributions. You need a fairly deep understanding of the nuts and bolts of a field to start productively philosophising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalo Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, StringJunky said: You need a fairly deep understanding of the nuts and bolts of a field to start productively philosophising. That is not true. The last thing you need as a philosopher is to get lost in technical details only specialists can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringJunky Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Dalo said: That is not true. The last thing you need as a philosopher is to get lost in technical details only specialists can understand. Without knowledge of the mechanics, as described mathematically, it's just air. One cannot make a meaningful scientific contribution in the 21st century... all the easy stuff has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalo Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just now, StringJunky said: Without knowledge of the mechanics, as described mathematically, it's just air. One cannot make a meaningful scientific contribution in the 21st century... all the easy stuff has been done. This is a philosophical claim. Physics won't help you defend it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordief Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, StringJunky said: productively philosophising What is that? Is there an interface(or common ground) between philosophy and scientific research? Edited December 14, 2017 by geordief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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