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Where is the line with increasing your longevity?

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#1 zhillolonan



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Posted 6 March 2017 - 08:45 PM

Many people try countless methods and follow various lifestyles to increase their longevity. However, are all these methods ethical? 


Controversial aging scientist Dr. Aubrey de Grey has many theories about how to live longer. He appeared on a podcast to discuss them, interesting stuff. Let's discuss :)


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#2 Bender



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Posted 8 March 2017 - 11:50 AM

Simply postponing death by a couple of years is not a problem, as long as we remain productive for sufficiently long. This condition seems trivial since we are already so productive that governments have to invent pointless jobs to keep people occupied.


If we cure ageing completely, we will need rules for child-bearing to prevent overpopulation. E.g. to get a child you would need to commit yourself to be euthanized a couple of decades later. There could also be a waiting list for a "child-bearing permit" to replace the people that die without having procreated. I think we need to be very strict about not allowing such a permit to be transferred in exchange for money, as that would lead to all kind of horror-scenarios.

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Posted 15 March 2017 - 11:56 AM

Science is working not only to slow the death. The main goal is to remove the effects and diseases that await people in old age.

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 06:20 PM

Well, I confess I didn't watch the video yet--I may or may not, since every other week somebody comes out with a new anti-aging hypothesis--but I wanted to share a criteria I use when weighing the credibility of one op those guys.


I simply look at them and see if they look younger than their real age. If they do NOT, and indeed do not significantly look younger (10 years or more) then I do not even bother with reading or listening to their ideas.


Why? The proof is in the pudding, as I always say regarding health gurus. Or alleged ones. LIke me, a lifelong athlete, marital arts instructor, runner. I think I eat a pretty much optimal diet. Whenever I read one of those "New Superfoods for Health!" articles, almost always I am already partaking in most of them. I run 25 miles a week and usually win my age group in races. I am routines gauged at being ten years younger than I really am. My resting hr is about 52.   So I am a tough audience for these guys and their new-fangled anti-aging notions.


It's like how I used to laugh at Deprak Chopra. One of his books, something about how not to age ever! His pic on the front, and there he was, looking every bit if not more of his (then) 60 years. LOL. See, to me, a case like this is just tossed out a priori if the author does not seem to be benefitting from his preaching tactics.


Is this too harsh on my part?

Edited by Velocity_Boy, 16 March 2017 - 06:22 PM.

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 07:08 PM


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Posted 12 April 2017 - 05:20 PM

My hypothesis is, that by increasing Stem cells we are able to drastically increase our lifespans.


Please either refute or confirm my hypothesis.

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Posted 15 April 2017 - 08:46 PM


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My hypothesis is, that by increasing Stem cells we are able to drastically increase our lifespans.


Please either refute or confirm my hypothesis.


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