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mathsfun
November 11th, 2004, 8:24 PM
can somebody pls help with the following:
Let G={1, -1,i,-i} where i^2 = -1. Show that G is an abelian group and give the group table.
bloodhound
November 12th, 2004, 12:56 AM
form a group table under multiplication
1 -1 i -i
1 1 -1 i -i
-1 -1 1 -i i
i i -i -1 1
-i -i i 1 -1
and just look at the elements of G times G. u can see that ab =ba whenever a,b in G
mathsfun
November 12th, 2004, 6:47 AM
thanks
matt grime
November 12th, 2004, 6:52 AM
It's a finite subset sof the complex numbers closed under multiplication and possessing inverses and identity, hence it is an abelian group. They really asked you to write out the group table? What level course is this?
bloodhound
November 12th, 2004, 9:43 AM
probably first year maths. i had to do that sort of stuff in my "Groups for Dummies"
Dogtanian
November 13th, 2004, 3:08 PM
They really asked you to write out the group table? What level course is this?
In my semigroups course I had a question the other week where I had to draw the multiplication table for the semigroup of just 2 elements...I guess at all levels there can be some need to use the tables of the simplest groups etc.
Aeschylus
November 13th, 2004, 5:39 PM
It's when they make you draw the multplictaion table for the trivial group that you should rise up and overthrow your maths teachers.
mathsfun
November 16th, 2004, 8:26 PM
It's a finite subset sof the complex numbers closed under multiplication and possessing inverses and identity, hence it is an abelian group. They really asked you to write out the group table? What level course is this?
this is a 1st year course, although to me it seems so difficult
matt grime
November 17th, 2004, 5:08 AM
It's not about the difficulty, it's a query about utility. Writing out group tables doesn't really help you do anything that you're not better off doing without them you see.
If you have to use tables, have you heard of the latin square principle?
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